Upholding the Bible!
Democrats who are frightened to touch the gay marriage issue, please take note: This is an exchange about whether Maryland should ban same-sex marriage between Republican Senator Nancy Jacobs and Jamie Rasin, a constitutional law professor from American University:
"As I read Biblical principles, marriage was intended, ordained and started by God - that is my belief," she said. "For me, this is an issue solely based on religious principals."Democrats, stop sweating over this issue. It's not that difficult. Maryland voters will determine whether their constitution should be changed to discriminate against gays.
Raskin shot back that the Bible was also used to uphold now-outlawed statutes banning interracial marriage, and that the constitution should instead be lawmakers' guiding principle.
"People place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution; they don't put their hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible," he said.
Some in the room applauded, which led committee chairman Sen. Brian E. Frosh, a Democrat from Montgomery County, to call for order. "This isn't a football game," he said.
posted by storiesinamerica @ 3:18 PM
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Who Needs the Constitution with One Nation Under the Bible?
I’m for gay marriage. But not only for the reasons you guys seem to talk about most of the time. Sure, all that stuff about how gay couples should enjoy the same rights and recognition as heterosexual couples is great, but here’s something else…just think about how much it would royally piss off the Islamic world.
The spectacle of gay marriage would only confirm the direst warnings of the mullahs including plenty of not-so-radical ones!) about the inherent insanity and decadence of Western culture. And, given the sexual traditions of even moderate Muslims around the world, those warnings would get a very receptive hearing.
Gay marriage is probably about as threatening--not to say insulting--to the core values of Muslims as any of Communism's tenets was to the core values of Americans during the Cold War. I doubt it would be much use arguing freedom and equality, etc., either. Rather, gay marriage would tend to be interpreted by Muslims as proof of the dangers of freedom and equality (i.e., that they inevitably turn into license).
If I were trying to recruit martyrs to battle the Great Satan, it’s hard to imagine something that would prompt Muslims to take up the sword against licentious, freedom-loving Westerners than gay marriage. It’s good to see you guys feel the same way as I do about telling these bastards to cram it.
Timmy are you living in the same world as the rest of us? I think that invading their country is sufficient motivation for the Islamic extremists. They are already recruiting quite well thanks largely to a Bush admin that already confirms their worst fears about the west (That they 1) are out to grab their oil 2) will lie, cheat and steal to do it 3) have no respect for Islam.
No matter what Bush or anyone else says, the invasion of Iraq is all the proof the jihadists need to get more recruits. They don't really need the gay marraige issue.
Oh, and let me get this straight (pardon the pun) You wouldn't support gay marraige because this country is SUPPOSE to be about equal rights under the law (like the right to marry, which heterosexuals enjoy but homosexuals do not). Instead, for you it's just about pissing off the Arabs.
Why do I get the feeling that your politics rest on the same moral and ethical foundations as a school yard bully?
Perhaps you didn't read my entire post. To repeat what I said:
"all that stuff about how gay couples should enjoy the same rights and recognition as heterosexual couples is great"
Let that sink in...I said "great". Great, wonderful, lovely, ultra-groovy...take your pick. I'll even throw in a "three cheers for gay marriage!!!" if it will help you understand. Clear enough?
"I think that invading their country is sufficient motivation for the Islamic extremists."
Apparently it takes less than that...if you count 3,000 dead people in New York City.
"Why do I get the feeling that your politics rest on the same moral and ethical foundations as a school yard bully?"
I don't know why you get the feelings you do, but I hope you're not suggesting that we shouldn't sanction gay marriage on account of how insulting and disgusting Muslims might find it. But for the record -- I could CARE LESS about how decadent we appear to Muslims. Americans should decide if gay people have the right to be married without any regard for Muslim religious beliefs...just like many of you believe abortion should be freely available without regard to what many Christian's believe.
Other than that, are you aware of Islamic views on homosexuality -- much less gay marriage? You might want to look into it a bit if you think I'm exaggerating.
Gay kids are standing up for the rights...good for them!
Culpeper and a Senator vs. Civil Liberty
I never dreamed of the day when I would reach a political debate on a human rights issue based on civil liberty and the foundations of our great country with a Senator, former Virginia Governor, and a potential candidate for the Republican Presidency. Senator George Allen (R-Virginia), held a public hearing in Culpeper this evening. I was there, and so was Culpeper.
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